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    OK, now listen to me here becuase I know quite a bit about neural networks. The short answer no, its not possible. The long answer is yes it is. See neural networks are best suited for pattern recognition, but not the kind that you would get out of Garry's Mod. Given enough time (about 5,000 iterations) you can get a simple feed forward/ back prorogation neural network to complete the XOR problem with an error less then then 0.005. The amount of user interaction required to custom train the robot already throws it into unfeasible and if it had to learn anything other then number recognition (or several pixel image recognition) it would fail utterly. Neural networks are a lot of math too and if you wanted to actually get it to lean things such as movement in a 3D physics environment, you would be far surpassing the ability of people with degrees in the field. Again technically its possible but logically its not even close.
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    Then I simply won't use neural networks?

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    AI can be defined in many possible ways, but i belive that if you gave a machine, abilities, and then gave it random numbers, something would happen

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    Well, quantum physics says that if you wait long enough, twenty billion dollars will suddenly appear from nowhere. It's just a question of probability, if you wrote random numbers into an executable file for long enough, you'd eventually end up with Spore, it's just a question of how long you're going to have to wait. Probably by the time that happens, the hard drive containing said executabe will crash, the computer will rust away, the human race will go extinct, the sun will explode, all the suns will explode, all the black holes will explode, and entropy will destroy the universe. Some physicists say that after the universe dies, after a while quantum probability will make a really big BANG and you know what happens next...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schilcote View Post
    Well, quantum physics says that if you wait long enough, twenty billion dollars will suddenly appear from nowhere. It's just a question of probability, if you wrote random numbers into an executable file for long enough, you'd eventually end up with Spore, it's just a question of how long you're going to have to wait. Probably by the time that happens, the hard drive containing said executabe will crash, the computer will rust away, the human race will go extinct, the sun will explode, all the suns will explode, all the black holes will explode, and entropy will destroy the universe. Some physicists say that after the universe dies, after a while quantum probability will make a really big BANG and you know what happens next...
    That's even funnier because I PLAY Spore...
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    What the fuck are you people on about.

    The point is to work hard and make a more sophisticated Gmod automation.
    Not to make up random ways of how it could appear out of air.

    Now open GMod and make me an AI!

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    Exactly how do you expect it to tell if we're happy or not? A learning AI might be possible, but I'm not the one to code it. The'res no way for it to tell what we're doing when we're building because Exp2 can't tell what tool is out, and also that would be a good bit more advanced than the best AI programmer out there can do, certianly beyond the capabilities of anyone around here.

    Heck, if someone gave me a really nice tutorial on neural networks, I'd give it a shot. Don't expect anything like what you're suggesting in the OP though.

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    Did someone say "Neural Network Tutorial"?

    Because I have no idea about them

    Seriously, though, I could try something like that in Python. If anyone could Lua-ize it and let it interface the IO it needs, I could try. Maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schilcote View Post
    Well, quantum physics says that if you wait long enough, twenty billion dollars will suddenly appear from nowhere. It's just a question of probability, if you wrote random numbers into an executable file for long enough, you'd eventually end up with Spore, it's just a question of how long you're going to have to wait. Probably by the time that happens, the hard drive containing said executabe will crash, the computer will rust away, the human race will go extinct, the sun will explode, all the suns will explode, all the black holes will explode, and entropy will destroy the universe. Some physicists say that after the universe dies, after a while quantum probability will make a really big BANG and you know what happens next...
    Actually that's the law of large numbers. Your point is valid but you sorta contradict yourself.
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    Let's just say that not even the CPU works quickly enough to facilitate an entity with the intelligence of an unborn fetus. Regardless of the combined coding finesse of the entire Wiremod community.

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