The Rules

**-=Fox=-** · 03-29-2008

Unless anyone has any objections, I'd like to post an on-going challenge set, something interesting and time delimited. Or I can just post it, like others have done here :lol:

**Roastie** · 08-31-2008

I have an idea for a challenge.

Difficulty: Anywhere from Easy to Impossible; this can be equally won by a very simple bot, or an insanely complex one.

Goals & Scoring:
- Build a land based bot to find and retrieve a cola can prop.
- 100 points for successfully reaching the can.
- 200 points for also returning the can to a drop off location.
- 60 points bonus for each minute (rounded down) under 30 minutes your bot takes to find the can.
- Up to 100 points bonus for bot complexity, as decided by a judge using a score out of 5. 0/5 = 0. 1/5 = 20. Etc.
- Up to 1000 bonus points for difficulty of access to the target prop. As with bot complexity bonus, decided by judge on a 5 point scale. Unbreakable and frozen props may be used to make access more difficult if the entrant so chooses.

Rules:
- Your bot MUST be land based. It cannot go more than 16 units (inches) from the ground in normal operation.
- Your bot CANNOT be no-collided in any way, excluding between actual parts of your bot.
- NO teleportation of any kind is allowed.
- NO usage of any addon excluding Wire is allowed. Common prop packs allowed.
- The position of the cola can prop must NOT be within line of sight and/or 10000 units (inches) of the drop off location if access difficulty is rated 2 or below by a judge.
- Each entrant's bot must be tested individually, and kept track of without interfering in it's performance by an agreed judge.
- Moving the cola can prop after it's location has been decided is NOT allowed. The prop must not be frozen in place.
- Use of more than one separate bot is not allowed. The only exception to this rule is if the bots are controlled by only one set of wiring.
- All wires, gates, and props must be visible.
- No human interaction with the bot is permitted, excluding starting it.
- And no waypoints permitted; excluding a locater beacon at the drop off zone.

**Bean** · 08-31-2008

Create a new topic with that post.

**Roastie** · 08-31-2008

Right-o.

I can't participate in it though, I've been forced over to Linux and can't run any source games at all.

**3dfactor** · 08-31-2008

Originally Posted by Roastie

Right-o.

I can't participate in it though, I've been forced over to Linux and can't run any source games at all.

I've seen people run windows game through Wine in Linux... Worth a try?

**Roastie** · 08-31-2008

Yeah, I can run it with wine, but only with -dxlevel 70

The hud and menus don't render at all.

**IEF015** · 08-31-2008

Originally Posted by Roastie

Yeah, I can run it with wine, but only with -dxlevel 70

The hud and menus don't render at all.

Lower the settings?

(Sorry, never used linux before. But thinking about it.)

**Roastie** · 09-01-2008

Originally Posted by IEF015

Lower the settings?

(Sorry, never used linux before. But thinking about it.)

If I change any settings ingame, I get the good ole black screen of death and Wine locks up.

I suggest that you either make a new partition or buy a new HDD and dual-boot. I've been forced to switch over from windows because SP3 broke XP.

It's not fun when you have to learn everything at once.

**Iures** · 11-16-2009

Originally Posted by Roastie

I have an idea for a challenge.

Difficulty: Anywhere from Easy to Impossible; this can be equally won by a very simple bot, or an insanely complex one.

Goals & Scoring:
- Build a land based bot to find and retrieve a cola can prop.
- 100 points for successfully reaching the can.
- 200 points for also returning the can to a drop off location.
- 60 points bonus for each minute (rounded down) under 30 minutes your bot takes to find the can.
- Up to 100 points bonus for bot complexity, as decided by a judge using a score out of 5. 0/5 = 0. 1/5 = 20. Etc.
- Up to 1000 bonus points for difficulty of access to the target prop. As with bot complexity bonus, decided by judge on a 5 point scale. Unbreakable and frozen props may be used to make access more difficult if the entrant so chooses.

Rules:
- Your bot MUST be land based. It cannot go more than 16 units (inches) from the ground in normal operation.
- Your bot CANNOT be no-collided in any way, excluding between actual parts of your bot.
- NO teleportation of any kind is allowed.
- NO usage of any addon excluding Wire is allowed. Common prop packs allowed.
- The position of the cola can prop must NOT be within line of sight and/or 10000 units (inches) of the drop off location if access difficulty is rated 2 or below by a judge.
- Each entrant's bot must be tested individually, and kept track of without interfering in it's performance by an agreed judge.
- Moving the cola can prop after it's location has been decided is NOT allowed. The prop must not be frozen in place.
- Use of more than one separate bot is not allowed. The only exception to this rule is if the bots are controlled by only one set of wiring.
- All wires, gates, and props must be visible.
- No human interaction with the bot is permitted, excluding starting it.
- And no waypoints permitted; excluding a locater beacon at the drop off zone.

I like the idea of this. a challenge for people who do things just because they can, not for any actual benefit to anybody. I would like to see this challenge posted.