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    Question Adv. Text Screen & Adv. Cam Controller Screen

    Okay, so before you go all like "This is not possible, this will cause lag!" then please, let me finish my speak.

    Adv. Text Screen
    Like the normal input, except this one shows the character according to the wired keyboard (ascii if im right). so you could CHANGE the outputted text without creating the screen again.
    Example:
    Screen says "hello" then i wire it to the Wired Keyboard and type something in, it will then stay there until i refresh the screen with a button.



    Adv. Cam Controller Screen
    well, this showes the cam controller on a screen
    This screen would only need two inputs: On, and Cam controller

    The "on" is pretty self explanatory, but the "Cam controller" is which Controller it should be linked too.
    Now this MAY seem impossible or very laggy, but i've hear something about this "Render lib" or whatever it is making it possible, so before you come out with the statement "its laggy / not possible" please, read about the render lib.

    Also, Correct me if im wrong, but i've searched the whole forum tonight, and nothing looked like this.

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    Default Re: Adv. Text Screen & Adv. Cam Controller Screen

    The cam controller screen would basically be an rt cam screen so I really doubt it would be laggy. As for the Adv. Text Screen I suggest we instead make a String Screen which has far more uses, then connect it to a expression that takes keyboard input and saves it then displays it on the string screen.

    Edit: This should be in the ideas and suggestions, because it isn't the actual product.
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    Default Re: Adv. Text Screen & Adv. Cam Controller Screen

    Quote Originally Posted by Tasuit View Post
    Adv. Text Screen
    Like the normal input, except this one shows the character according to the wired keyboard (ascii if im right). so you could CHANGE the outputted text without creating the screen again.
    Example:
    Screen says "hello" then i wire it to the Wired Keyboard and type something in, it will then stay there until i refresh the screen with a button.

    Why not just use a console screen?

    Exact same thing..

    And I will attempt to learn Lua and make a string screen. Don't count on it.

    /me goes to learn Lua

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    Default Re: Adv. Text Screen & Adv. Cam Controller Screen

    Yes, but the problem with rt screens is that they are global, so if i have 2 cam controllers, it wont work with 2 screens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tasuit View Post
    Yes, but the problem with rt screens is that they are global, so if i have 2 cam controllers, it wont work with 2 screens.
    Let's say you're in room A with an RT screen, and there's an RT camera in room B. There is a door between them that automatically closes.
    Code:
     ____    ____
    |    |  |    |
    |    |__|    |
    | A  |__| B  |
    |    |  |    |
    |____|  |____|
    Now, normally, you would only be rendering the contents of room A. However, because of the RT camera and screen, you would be rendering both A and B, which will give you a drop in framerate.

    And that's with just 1 camera.

    You'd have to be very careful about how the cam controller screens were implemented. For example, you'd only want them to display one screen at a time, which would decrease their effectiveness as security cameras. You'd also only be able to have a maximum of 16 screens on a server -- that includes console screens, digital screens, oscilloscopes etc. If you were going to use it as security cameras for a big base you'd probably want about 9 of them, which is over half the server's limit. This is because the GPUlib only allocates 16 rendertargets and it can not do any dynamic allocation of more.

    It's not impossible, but would require a lot of thought for it not to be ridiculously laggy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tasuit View Post
    Now this MAY seem impossible or very laggy, but i've hear something about this "Render lib" or whatever it is making it possible, so before you come out with the statement "its laggy / not possible" please, read about the render lib.
    From the sounds of it, you haven't read about the render lib at all.

    What I guess you're referring to is the Render library, which is just a collection of functions that let you draw lots of stuff. The render library is what would be used to draw a render target onto a screen. It doesn't magically make doing that not laggy, though.
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    Also, you don't get to make suggestions until you've contributed something to the forum. Your only posts have been in this thread. Nobody's going to take you seriously like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Officer Tibbles View Post
    Why not just use a console screen?
    If you want to write a string to a console screen you have to do it slowly otherwise it wont come out right, with a string screen you could just feed it a string and it would show up exactly as it should.

    Edit: Figured out how writeCell works on a console screen, I no longer need a string screen.
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    Default Re: Adv. Text Screen & Adv. Cam Controller Screen

    so im not allowed to request anything without contributing something? that is lame.
    also, are you sure we are talking about the same thing? If i remember right, Jinto made something called render lib, go check that out.

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    I never knew about that rule, maybe its de facto or somn.
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    Default Re: Adv. Text Screen & Adv. Cam Controller Screen

    Quote Originally Posted by Tasuit View Post
    so im not allowed to request anything without contributing something? that is lame.
    also, are you sure we are talking about the same thing? If i remember right, Jinto made something called render lib, go check that out.
    That's the gmcl_renderx library that Jinto wrote. It's a binary module that lets you do funky stuff such as clipping planes and stencils. You're saying that everybody who wants to use them should have to download a binary module? It needs to be moved out of the addons folder into another place.

    Binary modules are definitely a no-no for suggestions.

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    Default Re: Adv. Text Screen & Adv. Cam Controller Screen

    Well, im pretty sure that if we could have multiple rt, people would download the gmcl_renderx.

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