Wire 2

[Erkle]

Few questions:

1. As you're planning to implement the IC chip, will it replace the expression gate?
2. Will vector gates be included?
3. How are strings going to be handled?
   Will there be a string buffer chip where all the strings are held (like a value chip)?
   Will string operations be included as gates?

I see loads of nice functionality coming into play: If there was a string output on the Target Finder you could dynamically control your friends rather than having to add them to your buddies' list.

Sounds ace! [/b]

1. Syranide answered that above. I'd like to see the expression gate included in Wire 2, I'm pretty sure I'd use it. It is my favourite new toy since I returned after all.
2. Already got splitter, constructor, world to local and local to world so yes.
3. Haven't really thought much about buffering strings yet but at the moment they are handled no different to any other type. There will definitely be string operation chips.

The target finder will probably use a boolean port to ask wether a particular target is acceptable and skip any that aren't. The data transmission in Wire 2 is immediate so it could check any number of targets in a single tick. The usual target filters using the stool control panel will still be used for coarse filtering to limit the number of checks.

Out of interest is this why theres been a lack of SVN updates lately?[/b]

Until I've stabilised the core structure I'm the only one working on Wire 2 so no. Don't forget, they aren't get payed for their work so slow periods are to be expected on all but the largest teams.

[Filipe]

What exactly are Integrated Circuits? I checked wikipedia and it's apparently a miniature circuit. Does this mean we'll be able to somehow create a circuit like we would normally do with wiremod, and then compress it into a single IC? Will it require any coding knowledge?

[MistaGiggles]

One question, does the IC creation happen in the tool menu? Like do you create is 'virtually' in the tool menu, or do you actually create it physically in gmod, and then tell it to make an IC? Oh, and will there be new models for the ICs and other components?

By the way, this looks freakin' awesome

[dnifan]

And how about the CPU?

[Shandolum]

Will this replace the current SVN or come out separetly when it is done?

Also, can't wait for the RP.

[SuperU]

Wire 2 needs THIS ! Still i <span style="font-family:Arial Black">cant wait</span>

[Syranide]

[*] Syranide answered that above. I&#39;d like to see the expression gate included in Wire 2, I&#39;m pretty sure I&#39;d use it. It is my favourite new toy since I returned after all.[/b]

Hehe, glad to hear that
My current intention is of course to adapt the expression gate to Wire 2 when the specifications are final as I&#39;m pretty certain there will be no major obstacle. Although some things might change slightly, we&#39;ll see.

Just a note on expression gate v2 while I&#39;m at it, no development started yet, although I&#39;ve done a lot of "research" on my own and thought of different solutions and problems. It pretty much remains in the same state, semi active but not being "physically" developed, my currently biggest problem before being able to start development is the language and the possiblities around it, and also all the problems that comes with certain solutions. And it is a major decision since there are basically endless possiblities, including as I&#39;ve mentioned hybrid that can act both as CPU and Expression Gate, but the question is still cost (too hard?), what are the drawbacks etc and how to solve certain things.

[Shandolum]

Just a note on expression gate v2 while I&#39;m at it, no development started yet, although I&#39;ve done a lot of "research" on my own and thought of different solutions and problems.[/b]

Sounds good that you are making decent research before deciding the best solution, when I have been studying jave for a couple of days more, I will try seeing if I can learn some lua too, so I can begin coding wire stools myself someday. Anyone know of a really good site for learning it and/or a good documentation.

[adamscybot]

1. Syranide answered that above. I&#39;d like to see the expression gate included in Wire 2, I&#39;m pretty sure I&#39;d use it. It is my favourite new toy since I returned after all.
2. Already got splitter, constructor, world to local and local to world so yes.
3. Haven&#39;t really thought much about buffering strings yet but at the moment they are handled no different to any other type. There will definitely be string operation chips.

The target finder will probably use a boolean port to ask wether a particular target is acceptable and skip any that aren&#39;t. The data transmission in Wire 2 is immediate so it could check any number of targets in a single tick. The usual target filters using the stool control panel will still be used for coarse filtering to limit the number of checks.
Until I&#39;ve stabilised the core structure I&#39;m the only one working on Wire 2 so no. Don&#39;t forget, they aren&#39;t get payed for their work so slow periods are to be expected on all but the largest teams.[/b]

Oh, I wasn&#39;t critisizing I was just wondering

I know how hard it is to keep up on big projects - I&#39;ve worked on a few myself.

Back on topic - Yeh, will this replace the current svn completely when done and we restart at revision 1. I think it would be a good idea to do so, as we don&#39;t want 2 simultaneous completely different versions of wire on different servers etc - people would be confused.

Have you considered having a "Mantis" bug tracking system like what Garry uses? I&#39;ve seen it used successfully on many projects - its easier to keep track off than forum posts. However, It is only useful if it is acually looked at/maintained often (as in, issues are remarked as resolved/acknowledged etc at least once a week).

http://www.mantisbt.org/

Would fit in nice with the release of Wire 2.

Adam

[DuFace]

1. Syranide answered that above. I&#39;d like to see the expression gate included in Wire 2, I&#39;m pretty sure I&#39;d use it. It is my favourite new toy since I returned after all.
2. Already got splitter, constructor, world to local and local to world so yes.
3. Haven&#39;t really thought much about buffering strings yet but at the moment they are handled no different to any other type. There will definitely be string operation chips.

[/b]

Cheers for the info Erkle and Syranide! I&#39;m glad the expression gate will still be available as it&#39;ll really augment IC&#39;s. Now we just need to convince Syranide to build the E-Gate V2...

The data transmission in Wire 2 is immediate so it could check any number of targets in a single tick.[/b]

Sounds very interesting. How will the wire functions differ from a programming point of view? I was in the process of trying to make a few simple wire components but I&#39;m thinking of waiting for Wire 2 now.